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		<title>Comment on Statement from Anthony Jordan on SBC name news by Lloyd Biggers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd Biggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am opposed to the SBC name change and the &quot;optional unofficial name&quot;.  We are what we are and we have good reason to be proud of the SBC name we presently carry.  

Does anyone really believe that we can change our name and the unchurched will suddenly see us in a different light than before, flock to the church buildings and reverse the decline in membership?  The Lifeway study that revealed a significant enough level of negativity toward the Southern Baptist churches by the unchurched implies that our work fulfilling the Great Commission is made more complicated.  It may be.  However, painting our denomination with a different color (i.e., name) does not change the composition of our Biblically-based doctrine.

With over 50 associations, fellowships and conventions using the name &quot;Baptist&quot; in the U.S. I can see where the unchurched are confused, as this list goes from the Alliance of Baptists to the World Baptist Fellowship.  The Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas is also in this list.  

We (SBC Baptists) have pregnancy crisis centers, childrens homes, relief shelters, disaster relief teams, foreign and home missionaries and numerous other outreach programs that carry comfort, goodwill and the message of the Cross to those who need it.  How many of the unchurched know about these programs of our denomination?  I imagine very few.

I believe the answer to our negative numbers from the Lifeway study is not window dressing like a new name, but advertising in the national media showing what the Southern Baptists are doing in our communities to serve those in need.  Additionally, each of us needs to redouble our time in God&#039;s Word daily and spend copious amounts of time in prayer to God, seeking wisdom, forgiveness of our sins and His assistance to us in living our life as He wants us to do.  We need to live our faith each day and be the salt of the earth and that the light on the hill, essentially &quot;walking the talk.&quot;  Any effort less than that is aid and comfort to those who seek to criticize our church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am opposed to the SBC name change and the &#8220;optional unofficial name&#8221;.  We are what we are and we have good reason to be proud of the SBC name we presently carry.  </p>
<p>Does anyone really believe that we can change our name and the unchurched will suddenly see us in a different light than before, flock to the church buildings and reverse the decline in membership?  The Lifeway study that revealed a significant enough level of negativity toward the Southern Baptist churches by the unchurched implies that our work fulfilling the Great Commission is made more complicated.  It may be.  However, painting our denomination with a different color (i.e., name) does not change the composition of our Biblically-based doctrine.</p>
<p>With over 50 associations, fellowships and conventions using the name &#8220;Baptist&#8221; in the U.S. I can see where the unchurched are confused, as this list goes from the Alliance of Baptists to the World Baptist Fellowship.  The Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas is also in this list.  </p>
<p>We (SBC Baptists) have pregnancy crisis centers, childrens homes, relief shelters, disaster relief teams, foreign and home missionaries and numerous other outreach programs that carry comfort, goodwill and the message of the Cross to those who need it.  How many of the unchurched know about these programs of our denomination?  I imagine very few.</p>
<p>I believe the answer to our negative numbers from the Lifeway study is not window dressing like a new name, but advertising in the national media showing what the Southern Baptists are doing in our communities to serve those in need.  Additionally, each of us needs to redouble our time in God&#8217;s Word daily and spend copious amounts of time in prayer to God, seeking wisdom, forgiveness of our sins and His assistance to us in living our life as He wants us to do.  We need to live our faith each day and be the salt of the earth and that the light on the hill, essentially &#8220;walking the talk.&#8221;  Any effort less than that is aid and comfort to those who seek to criticize our church.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Statement from Anthony Jordan on SBC name news by Matt Celoria</title>
		<link>http://baptistmessenger.com/statement-from-anthony-jordan-on-sbc-name-news/comment-page-1/#comment-16318</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Celoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I think the Task Force did a good job with a difficult task.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think the Task Force did a good job with a difficult task.</p>
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		<title>Comment on PERSPECTIVE: Stand! by Gary Capshaw</title>
		<link>http://baptistmessenger.com/perspective-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-16224</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Capshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 01:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came back to this site to see if anyone had commented on my remarks.  After re-reading what I wrote, I see that it might be construed as an attack on Dr. Jordan.  That is not the case, and if anyone was offended, I apologize.

While we may disagree on this one issue, I believe Dr. Jordan to be a great man of God.  His leadership of this Convention has shown a remarkable consistency in regards to taking the Gospel into dark places.  The BGCO is at the forefront of evangelistic efforts, in a variety of areas, and I think Dr. Jordan deserves much of the credit for that.  Though we have never met, I have no doubts about his sincerity and desire to fulfill the Great Commission.

I just wanted to clear that up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came back to this site to see if anyone had commented on my remarks.  After re-reading what I wrote, I see that it might be construed as an attack on Dr. Jordan.  That is not the case, and if anyone was offended, I apologize.</p>
<p>While we may disagree on this one issue, I believe Dr. Jordan to be a great man of God.  His leadership of this Convention has shown a remarkable consistency in regards to taking the Gospel into dark places.  The BGCO is at the forefront of evangelistic efforts, in a variety of areas, and I think Dr. Jordan deserves much of the credit for that.  Though we have never met, I have no doubts about his sincerity and desire to fulfill the Great Commission.</p>
<p>I just wanted to clear that up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guest Editorial: HHS mandate challenges religious liberty by Gary Capshaw</title>
		<link>http://baptistmessenger.com/guest-editorial-hhs-mandate-challenges-religious-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-16214</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Capshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The law in 20+states mandates the same thing.  Few of them have a religious exemption.  There are Catholic and other Christian organizations in those states which are following those requirements without protest.

Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The law in 20+states mandates the same thing.  Few of them have a religious exemption.  There are Catholic and other Christian organizations in those states which are following those requirements without protest.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
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		<title>Comment on 21st annual Rose Day packs capitol by Staff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy,

Unfortunately we didn&#039;t have a videographer at the event so we don&#039;t have any video of your performance. I asked around and couldn&#039;t find anybody that had any more info on who might have been recording it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy,</p>
<p>Unfortunately we didn&#8217;t have a videographer at the event so we don&#8217;t have any video of your performance. I asked around and couldn&#8217;t find anybody that had any more info on who might have been recording it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 21st annual Rose Day packs capitol by Randy Parks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Parks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 03:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,
I sang during the Rose Day program and I am looking for someone that might have made a video recording of the service, and especially while I was singing. If you know of someone that made a video recording of the service, please give them my e-mail and ask them if I might purchase a copy of the program. Thank you for your time.
crandyparks@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,<br />
I sang during the Rose Day program and I am looking for someone that might have made a video recording of the service, and especially while I was singing. If you know of someone that made a video recording of the service, please give them my e-mail and ask them if I might purchase a copy of the program. Thank you for your time.<br />
<a href="mailto:crandyparks@gmail.com">crandyparks@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on PERSPECTIVE: Stand! by Gary Capshaw</title>
		<link>http://baptistmessenger.com/perspective-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-16132</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Capshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we are losing the cultural war, it&#039;s because the culture is against us.  This is still a land where The People rule and not much happens without The People&#039;s consent through our elected representatives.    All of the battles we seem to be losing are coming through our elected officials and their appointed ministers.  What that means for us as Christian&#039;s is that The People themselves are rejecting the Christian world-view.  That&#039;s not an indictment of them or of the government, but of the Church itself.

In a nation where over 70% of it&#039;s citizens are self-avowed Christian&#039;s, how is this possible?

I think it&#039;s possible because the Church is failing America in two key areas:  Evangelism and disciplining.  We&#039;ve gotten very good at expressing our outrage over politics, very good at organizing political rallies and gathering up at the Capitol building to protest, but we&#039;ve lost sight of the inescapable fact that if we were doing the job Christ sent us to do, all that activism would not be necessary in the first place.  If we were effectively mentoring our members in Christian growth and spending our time preaching the Gospel instead of organizing and carrying signs which point our judgmental fingers at the lost, maybe we&#039;d still have some influence.  As it is now, every time we take a political position, we drive away every person on the other side of that issue and separate ourselves even further from those to whom we should be ministering.  We&#039;re literally forcing people away from hearing the Gospel because we&#039;ve offended them by our actions.  WE look like hypocrites, not them.

Perhaps the answer isn&#039;t to become even more active, but do what Paul told Timothy to do:  The work of an Evangelist.  If we believe anything else will work besides preaching the Gospel, we&#039;ve become &quot;Christian&quot; in name only, having a form of godliness but denying the power of the Holy Spirit to transform this country by transforming individual lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are losing the cultural war, it&#8217;s because the culture is against us.  This is still a land where The People rule and not much happens without The People&#8217;s consent through our elected representatives.    All of the battles we seem to be losing are coming through our elected officials and their appointed ministers.  What that means for us as Christian&#8217;s is that The People themselves are rejecting the Christian world-view.  That&#8217;s not an indictment of them or of the government, but of the Church itself.</p>
<p>In a nation where over 70% of it&#8217;s citizens are self-avowed Christian&#8217;s, how is this possible?</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s possible because the Church is failing America in two key areas:  Evangelism and disciplining.  We&#8217;ve gotten very good at expressing our outrage over politics, very good at organizing political rallies and gathering up at the Capitol building to protest, but we&#8217;ve lost sight of the inescapable fact that if we were doing the job Christ sent us to do, all that activism would not be necessary in the first place.  If we were effectively mentoring our members in Christian growth and spending our time preaching the Gospel instead of organizing and carrying signs which point our judgmental fingers at the lost, maybe we&#8217;d still have some influence.  As it is now, every time we take a political position, we drive away every person on the other side of that issue and separate ourselves even further from those to whom we should be ministering.  We&#8217;re literally forcing people away from hearing the Gospel because we&#8217;ve offended them by our actions.  WE look like hypocrites, not them.</p>
<p>Perhaps the answer isn&#8217;t to become even more active, but do what Paul told Timothy to do:  The work of an Evangelist.  If we believe anything else will work besides preaching the Gospel, we&#8217;ve become &#8220;Christian&#8221; in name only, having a form of godliness but denying the power of the Holy Spirit to transform this country by transforming individual lives.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2012 State Evangelism Conference by Tim Gentry</title>
		<link>http://baptistmessenger.com/2012-state-evangelism-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-16097</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Gentry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much prayer and planning go into the conference theme, preachers/singers and schedule.  A balance between carefully following the schedule and allowing spontaneity is sought during each session.  There were overruns from the speakers as well as the musicians on Tuesday afternoon and evening.  The overruns were unfortunate, especially after Tuesday evening was promoted as a shortened service that would dismiss by 8:00 p.m.
 
Thank you for taking the time to express your concerns.  They are taken seriously and will be discussed in the planning for next year’s conference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much prayer and planning go into the conference theme, preachers/singers and schedule.  A balance between carefully following the schedule and allowing spontaneity is sought during each session.  There were overruns from the speakers as well as the musicians on Tuesday afternoon and evening.  The overruns were unfortunate, especially after Tuesday evening was promoted as a shortened service that would dismiss by 8:00 p.m.</p>
<p>Thank you for taking the time to express your concerns.  They are taken seriously and will be discussed in the planning for next year’s conference.</p>
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		<title>Comment on MY316 new believer&#8217;s book now available by Tim Gentry</title>
		<link>http://baptistmessenger.com/my316-new-believers-book-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-16096</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Gentry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy,

You inquired about the availability of MY316 materials.

The materials are free to Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma churches.

The materials are available to others for a small fee.

Order by phone, call Erin Clark at (405) 942-3000 ext. 4313 or e-mail EClark@bgco.org.

The price list is as follows:
Adult, Young Adult, Student, Child Sunday School Lessons (per book) - $2.00*
Student Tract - $0.05
Children’s Tract - $0.50
Oversized Children’s Tract - $8.00
New Believer’s Book - $2.00*
Brochure - $0.50
Prayer Card - $0.05
Church Evangelism Accelerator - $2.50*
      *Available online at no cost (www.bgco.org/my316)

Teaching Him personally,

Tim Gentry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy,</p>
<p>You inquired about the availability of MY316 materials.</p>
<p>The materials are free to Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma churches.</p>
<p>The materials are available to others for a small fee.</p>
<p>Order by phone, call Erin Clark at (405) 942-3000 ext. 4313 or e-mail <a href="mailto:EClark@bgco.org">EClark@bgco.org</a>.</p>
<p>The price list is as follows:<br />
Adult, Young Adult, Student, Child Sunday School Lessons (per book) &#8211; $2.00*<br />
Student Tract &#8211; $0.05<br />
Children’s Tract &#8211; $0.50<br />
Oversized Children’s Tract &#8211; $8.00<br />
New Believer’s Book &#8211; $2.00*<br />
Brochure &#8211; $0.50<br />
Prayer Card &#8211; $0.05<br />
Church Evangelism Accelerator &#8211; $2.50*<br />
      *Available online at no cost (www.bgco.org/my316)</p>
<p>Teaching Him personally,</p>
<p>Tim Gentry</p>
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		<title>Comment on Introducing: Messenger Digital by Staff</title>
		<link>http://baptistmessenger.com/digital/comment-page-1/#comment-16092</link>
		<dc:creator>Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Yes, both print and digital subscribers have access to the Digital Messenger. You should be able to use your email address as both the username and password to login to the system. If you experience any issues simple call our subscriptions clerk at 405-942-3800 (ext 4352) and they will be more than happy to assist you in getting setup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Yes, both print and digital subscribers have access to the Digital Messenger. You should be able to use your email address as both the username and password to login to the system. If you experience any issues simple call our subscriptions clerk at 405-942-3800 (ext 4352) and they will be more than happy to assist you in getting setup.</p>
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